tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4559002410879446409.post5682224439588932975..comments2024-03-28T16:12:40.861+01:00Comments on Electrospaces.net: Some numbers about NSA's data collectionP/Khttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12681178058475882593noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4559002410879446409.post-28431656351922305262014-06-09T17:44:34.779+02:002014-06-09T17:44:34.779+02:00I've interned for one of the companies that pr...I've interned for one of the companies that produces the devices used by NSA and law enforcement for cellular snooping.<br /><br />They do not follow the rules. During product training we were told to "have fun" with the software and actively listen to phone calls within a few miles. <br /><br />These agencies are run by military meat-heads who are under the impression they have permission to do whatever they want and just "classify" anything that's illegal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4559002410879446409.post-4215594769675797232014-06-07T13:35:21.944+02:002014-06-07T13:35:21.944+02:00stazi shills are strong in this threadstazi shills are strong in this threadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4559002410879446409.post-5664650433221742952014-06-07T01:21:06.473+02:002014-06-07T01:21:06.473+02:00That comparison is not fully correct: every conver...That comparison is not fully correct: every conversation is protected by the fourth amendment, except for when there's a legal reason for law enforcement or intelligence agencies to eavesdrop on it. <br /><br />If such agencies consider it necessary, they can also place microphones directed at people in their homes or even when they are meeting somewhere outside. However, this is somewhat cumbersome, it's true that eavesdropping on electronic communications is easier.<br /><br />It should be noted that there's no evidence for indiscriminate or bulk recording of the content of American communications, at least not by NSA. NSA is only collecting the metadata of phone calls, to use that for targeted contact chaining. P/Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681178058475882593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4559002410879446409.post-71351061718673499062014-06-07T01:10:36.420+02:002014-06-07T01:10:36.420+02:00Consider this: You can have a conversation with yo...Consider this: You can have a conversation with your neighbor in the middle of the street that is protected by the Fourth Amendment and private. If you pick up the phone and call the same neighbor, or chat online, or skype, or email them its recorded in some form. The only difference is a piece of technology exists between the two of you that can be exploited. How can the first conversation be private and protected but not the second?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4559002410879446409.post-10369432978464445662014-06-06T21:45:43.151+02:002014-06-06T21:45:43.151+02:00"I really don’t care that the NSA might liste..."I really don’t care that the NSA might listen in on a phone call or read one of my emails."<br /><br />I do care. They're my phone calls and my eMails, and I want to keep them private. Not because there's anything criminal in them. Just because I can make that choice, and that's what I choose. Anything else effectively makes me the property of the state. <br /><br />This is the price of the society you're happy to surrender your liberties to protect; that those of us who choose NOT to surrender to the state, don't have to. You might not like it, but that's what you're protecting. <br /><br />If you think it's worth protecting, then I get privacy because that's the whole point. If you don't think it's worth protecting, then I get privacy because you don't need to read my eMails. There is no argument in which the society is worth protecting AND gets to read my eMail; it's only worth protecting if it DOESN'T get to read my eMail.Moschopsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4559002410879446409.post-76832809016517759382014-06-06T19:09:00.666+02:002014-06-06T19:09:00.666+02:00I want, particularly for those aged 60 and above a...I want, particularly for those aged 60 and above and who care not a jot if they are a target, to be auto-cited - for speeding.<br /><br />Each time google maps running on their phone and using the GSM satellites detects THEY (and only they) are 1m over the speed limit build into the mapping database, it reports the fact to the local police for a automatic fine.<br /><br />Lets ensure folks "feel" the nature of a stasi-state - starting with those who care not if it exists. Criminals and criminals, including those driving at 1m over the limit.peter williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04967978549798332941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4559002410879446409.post-56935048548743181872014-06-06T18:38:05.182+02:002014-06-06T18:38:05.182+02:00Here's an interesting debate over SIGINT gathe...Here's an interesting debate over SIGINT gathering/collection.<br /> <br />Greenwald, Ohanian vs Hayden, Dershowitz<br /> <br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d1tw3mEOoEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4559002410879446409.post-24127231972316164472014-06-06T18:25:44.757+02:002014-06-06T18:25:44.757+02:00This may come to shock some readers, but perhaps i...This may come to shock some readers, but perhaps it is due to our horrific foreign policy in which has provoked hatred around the Middle East. After all, I don't think they really hate us just because we have (some) freedom, I think some of these radicals would have not resorted to terrorism if we had tried to make peaceful international trade deals/ relationships - rather than blowing the sh*t out of their countries. When you push people, many times people will push back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4559002410879446409.post-75613744628513679872014-06-06T07:39:07.844+02:002014-06-06T07:39:07.844+02:00I am not a US citizen but I wonder how many lives ...I am not a US citizen but I wonder how many lives will be lost due to Snowden’s actions. <br /><br />His revealing of some of the NSA’s capabilities will allow these seeking to do evil the chance of not being detected. Be that drug traffickers to Al Qaeda etc. <br /><br />I really don’t care that the NSA might listen in on a phone call or read one of my emails. The poor guy tasked with that would die of boredom. <br /><br />In a nut shell I am not a target but there are bad guys out there. <br /><br />Sorry but I think Snowden is a traitor and not just to the US. SystemRathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04062151435838140337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4559002410879446409.post-83822454865842670862014-06-06T01:20:27.686+02:002014-06-06T01:20:27.686+02:00There are no numbers of attacks prevented worldwid...There are no numbers of attacks prevented worldwide. NSA officials only have said that the PRISM program and domestic cable tapping foiled some 40 terrorist plots.<br /><br />It seems that Snowden had no access to the actual finished intelligence reports by NSA analysts. Therefore we know almost nothing about the results of all these interception programs.P/Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681178058475882593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4559002410879446409.post-63768546690271995082014-06-06T00:05:53.786+02:002014-06-06T00:05:53.786+02:00How about some data on the attacks thwarted, or ar...How about some data on the attacks thwarted, or are you going to tell me that Snowman didn't come across any documents about outcome of the programs.<br /><br />Maybe these people could be confined in an island where no intelligence agency could touch them or be related to them in any way. We would see if terrorists would be as nice with them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com